9 December 2013

Educating Loki - Ancient Warfare (1)

Well this is part 1 of a mini series of posts which will most likely not be continued until the challenge has concluded, but never say never right! I also wont be posting as much this week, and only have this post and one scheduled for Thursday to see you through the week, this is because I am on lock down trawling through reams of back dated paperwork in an effort to get that straight before the challenge starts. Any ways I will stop waffling now and get to the main feature of this post.

Being an avid painter, I like to paint new figures in a wide range of periods from history. However like a lot of gamers I know, the full knowledge of a period is often skipped in favour of the juicy bits. I admit that I have also been guilty of this in the past. I have good knowledge of my favourite periods, but only a basic level of understanding for some others.


Ancient warfare is a classic area of my limited knowledge, with only the most basic level of perspicacity to get me by. So its an area that I am know working on to improve my comprehension of. This has been bought about by the games of Hail Caesar we have been playing, and the desire to expand beyond the conflicts between Rome and the Ancient Britons some thing that I have a good enough knowledge of.

I have always wanted to play a little more classical warfare and my earliest memories of this came in the form of an Egyptian DBA force I once owned. This time though I want to delve a little deeper into the period and rather than concentrating research on the Egyptian army, which in reality changed very little between the Old and New kingdoms and I know enough about these to field a good representative force so I will be looking at the various enemies in the beginning.

While much of any research into this period can be taken as conjectural, one can make some reasonable assumptions using common logic and working from known evidence. Of course my starting point for the armies I want to research will be the lists in the games supplement publications, and once I have chosen an army I will then start reading books and watching documentaries that are available to ascertain some tactics and get an overall feel for the force. Equipped with this information I can then build what I feel is a logical and authentic representation of the formations and troop types to represent them. They may not be totally accurate but you show me a 2000+ year old man who can give me exact details and then I may defer from what I conclude.

I am going to be building these with 1/72nd plastic and 20mm metals, as these ranges tend to offer a very diverse and wide choice of figures, they have the added benefit of coming at a reasonable cost per figure, which helps greatly as many of these forces will require vast numbers to make a good sized army for the table. Although I will have to make some compromises and substitute figures from the nearest matching army where they are not available. At my age I am happy enough to get gaming rather than worry about some of the minute details of dress code.


I have chosen to begin with the early Nubians as we now call them, or the kingdom of Kush as it was then, the logic is that they will be an enemy of the Old Kingdom Egyptians and as mercenaries for the New Kingdom, so I will be able to use the force either wholly or in part for either period. This in itself is a bonus as it will mean that they get more use than a stand alone army, and when it comes to building a New Kingdom force I will have a good quantity of troops to fit alongside them. Building the Egyptians will be a compromise of figures as nearly all manufacturers only produce New Kingdom Figures so they will have to suffice and go minus chariots to serve a Old Kingdom, after all the only real difference in most cases is a groin guard and head cover.

So with all this forethought and planning I am hoping to set some good goals to achieve for 2014 on a personal level and really get into the gaming a bit more, of course I am not alone in all this madness as Kevin has plans to complete some rather nice Dark Age forces and dabble into the Crusades, both of us have plans for other enemies of Rome too, with Sarmatians and Dacians both due to make an appearance in the near future. All this and I haven't touched on Greece or Persia yet so you can see where all this madness could lead too.

So stay tuned as I dedicate 2014 as year of the ancients!!

22 comments:

  1. I will be following these projects with great interest. If I do biblical stuff it will also likely be in 20mm for the reasons you mentioned. I'll be getting a kindle for x-mas and I to plan on doing a lot of reading on subjects I'm not so familiar with.

    Christopher

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    1. I hope I can show stuff that will peak some interest for you then Christopher

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  2. Thta's a good idea for starting: something you can "morph" and that will remain useable with/against many of the other possible armies from the period. Good luck - it's always exciting to start a new project!

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    1. I agree lifes to short to worry about wether one should or should not compromise on occassion

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  3. I shall follow this with interest. I have never really been gripped with ancients type gaming.. but i could be tempted with a bit of the fall of Rome - after all I am always being told I am a vandal..

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    1. I have always liked the ancient period and used to play alot then sold everything off

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  4. Sounds like a great plan, I've played the period loads of times, El Diablo himself........Postie has a massive 15mm Ancient collection including Egyptians and all their allies and enemies. I'll look forward to seeing the army grow, especially being in 1/72 scale.

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    1. You can truly thank Hail caesar for this its been a real bit of fun and given me some vigour to make some new armies

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  5. This will be fun to follow along! Nubians, Dacians, Sarmations, oh my!

    I took too long to find my way to ancients. Now that I'm in, I find a fascinating army/nation/story under each historical "stone" I turn over.

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    1. Egyptians, Sea peoples and lots more for 2014 Monty

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  6. Well you are ancient my friend, good luck and looking forward to a bit of ancient work:P

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    1. Very true Francis, my body is certainly past it prime

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  7. I may do a Mycenaean/Minoan army in 15mm if I run out of other things for Curt's challenge.
    Nubian Army hmmm., I have a friend who painted one in a month for a competition. I also look forward to seeing this develop.

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    1. this wont be 2014 Clint I have French Naps, Anglo Saxons, French Indian Wars, Pirates, Celts, Skraelings and a whole raft of other figures that have priority.

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    2. We all have extra projects that we feel we should be working on, but sometimes we just get the urge to do things out of the previously envisaged order. When ever you do them It will be a pleasure to see them.

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  8. This will be great as we are both working on things for the same rules, but for different periods in history.
    The vikings will partly complete the dark ages for us.
    The Normans will follow and they will also double as early Crusaders.
    The Saracens will work for a multitude of Muslim armies from quite a historical time span.
    Like yourself Andy, I am also looking forward to going back to Ancients, where most of my gaming started.
    I may even get a bit more time for blogging.

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    1. We will be buddy, and the games will no doubt be a lot of fun.
      Hopefully once you have that commission killed off the blogging will increase a little for you.

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  9. I will be looking forward to seeing these completed especially if you are going to use plastics. I will be interested in seeing how you tackle the flexing for them

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  10. Vallejo Acrylic Primer is the answer to that issue it remains fully flexible :)

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